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Great job:)

Can I know why did you remove the Triton note?

I didn't find your thesis, is it open to the public?

Of course, a chromatic keyboard only has 12 keys, not 17, but some electronic instruments allow to define microtonal custom scales. So would it be possible to play this song on a chromatic keyboard? Or would we need two different custom scales that we could switch between for different parts of the song?

May I ask some questions: How do you feel about microtonal music, what is the exact emotion that you feel and why? Can you enjoy 53EDO, 31EDO, 7EDO or any EDO at the first time?

thank you, sir!

Ok my friend, pleas next time use an example of the real thing. Only in the last minute of this video I hear something sounding like being played on a keyboard that needs repair.

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Please talk to Jacob Collier!!!!!

We call these "blue notes" in jazz.

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Thank you for the presentation. I would have said augmented sharps and diminished flats (Bartok and Katchachuran already covered this). I would probably call the scale Augmented Chromatic scale. I also wrote a thesis on the absolute number of chords possible in a chromatic scale. I would like to work with you to take this idea to the next level.

Thanks for making this video, what tips do you have for westerners who are trying to learn the 17 tone system, especially for trying to compose music using DAW's and for tuning neutral tones given what you mentioned that they do not always fall directly +50 or -50 between the western 12 tones?

You can call it polychromatic scale...

Liked and subsrcibed, so very interesting.

Sure color are nice. But what are those notes and Hertz they are set to 🤔

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Thank you very much. It was informative. Btw why do you have a big headphone on while talking?

Cool video!

Metachromatic?

Isn't "tritone" = F#?

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I believe it is important to realize that music comes from the culture, and is reflective of the minds of the people. Persian artistry, is also part of the deep spiritual consciousness that breathes through the earth's life. It is for me, when I listen to the mystical forms, is a dive into the atmosphere of nature, sunsets, and heat, walking in sands, the coming so close to death by lack of water, or the power of wind to blow through the body and the blood and make one inside out.

The chromatic scale in modern western music is equal temperament. That's a little artificial; I guess that's also a factor here - the notes you show as mapping don't precisely map? And is there a concept of temperament in Persian music?

Farsad, thank you! it is beautifully explained.

Why doesn't the 7 tone system count the octave higher c while the 12 tone system does? Souldn't it be called 8 tone instead?

Yes! I love these deep nerdy music topics :) and wow Maraghi's barbat is HUGE! Do you think the painting exaggerates the size of it?

A fascinating video!

Extra chromatic or Polychromatic❤ interesting video

Once I had that Iranian cultural channel with a lot of music, Iranian music left a bad impression and I love music.

Thanks. But i have a question : in my saz the 1/4 notes are in the 2, the 4, 7, 9 and 12 frets. So it is getting well. But if i use a capo (by example from C to D ) i could not have the same.

I'd be interested in seeing if you applied something like the circle of fifths or the various types of modulation charts to this if it would produce something a bit more different than expected, on account of the tritone being removed.

Thank you, great video!

It just sounds like you’re playing everything on a piano that is completely out of tune. Sorry, but it’s just not pleasant sounding to my western ears.

Man this was great video!

Polychromatic (obviously?)

As a synaesthete, though not a lifelong synaesthete, I found this fascinating. I have absolute pitch, and I started experiencing synaesthesia after experimenting with music in base-16 (with sixteen tones in the octave). My colour associations are not necessarily consistent or even rational (e.g. a spectrum layout such as the one you present in this video). For example, my A is a sky blue, while my A three-quarters sharp (an A sharpened by three eighth tones) is a darker blue, somewhere between sky blue and ultramarine blue. Which as an association is counter-intuitive since we would describe the pitch as a 'brighter' A, but my colour association is darker because my ear says that it sounds kind of like B flat.

Youve, already got a name for it: Persian 17-tone scale (p.s., interesting stuff!)

What about one with 13? Have you heard of such?

Holographic

But where is G flat?

I live in the Blue Mountains Sydney. There was a man who lived near me who wrote a lot about 31 tone systems. Bill Coates 1917 to 1997. "He gradually came to realise the impoverishing effects that confining ourselves to 12 equal notes to the octave has had on Western music. And, while appreciating the various ways in which shades of notes are treated in non-European musics, he decided to work towards extending our Western equal temperament from 12 to 31 notes in each octave. When he had come to understand that, mathematically speaking, 31 is the best of equal temperaments, he undertook composition in it. He made frequent visits to Holland, where support for 31 is strong; he often played on the 31-note, 2-manual organ at Haarlem (with 31-note pedals!); and commissioned and possessed an Archiphone - the electronic organ permanently tuned to 31 equal notes in each octave."

Western composers: “Augmented seconds. Got it.”

These lesson are wonderful! I hope to play Persian and Iraqi style oud one day. Would it be possible to have more song broken down like you did here with dastgah-e mahor, where you show the specific tetrachords being played and when they switched. Your analysis is very helpful! Moteshakeram!

i'd call the 17 note system: hyperchromatic.

Great video, thanks. I am wondering what king of tunings of the quarter tones are used depending on the mode played. If anyone can point me to some information would be appreciated.

Hyperchromatic?

Huh, you're at McGill too?

I would love to try this out on my synthesizer, i.e., to put this into a quantizer. Is there a good web resource that will list tetrachord pairs using quarter-tones according to the described systems?